Moderators, look at a map. I think the parent was trying to show how fscked up amtrak's network is - one has to go through LA to get from flagstaff to phoenix!?!?! Actually, I have a more ridiculous case: according to Amtrak, if I want to go from Saint Louis to Minneapolis I have a nice eight-hour train ride through Chicago; but since the train travels in a loop and not a line, the return trip from Minneapolis to Saint Louis goes through. SEATTLE and takes seven days, and costs three thousand dollars.
The ministry said that a joint Spanish and Moroccan committee of officials had already agreed a preliminary three-year plan of works to start as early as next year, with an estimated initial cost of $30m. Er, 'm' in Europe/Africa is 1e6, right? I can't imagine what sort of 'preliminary three-year plan of works' in such an Herculean effort could be done for a mere $30 million. Look at the big dig in Boston -- a relatively easy task (shorter by far, at least) with initial estimates of $4billion (I think) and 40-50% overruns, I can't imagine much more than breaking ground on either end of this proposed gargantuan tunnel getting done for $30m. It might be a misprint, but a tunnel under the water doesn't have to be as complicated as one under Boston. It's just a big concrete-lined bore-hole. You don't have to worry about making sure the ground above you doesn't collapse, after you get past a certain depth.
It doesn't even need to be ventilated, as the trains will be run by electricity. By comparison, a car tunnel under a city is shallow and has to be ventilated. (so people don't die from suffocating on trapped car exhaust.) While not as large an undertaking, the Big Dig is much more intricate. The Eisenhower interstates are often built through and into the hearts of our major cities, and that wasn't an inevitable thing; there was real tension and debate over whether to just make them skirt the big towns, rather than going in. In California, for example, Reagan pushed to have the interstate come right out into the Fisherman's Wharf area, but that got nixed. In the Twin Cities, where I live, we have a 'Days of Rondo' celebration every year -- the Rondo neighborhood in Saint Paul having been cut in.
It might be a misprint, but a tunnel under the water doesn't have to be as complicated as one under Boston. It's just a big concrete-lined bore-hole. There are two ways of building a tunnel under water, one is to use TBMs, the other is sink prefabricated sections. The former is less disruptive in the middle of a shipping lane.
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It doesn't even need to be ventilated, as the trains will be run by electricity. By comparison, a car tunnel under a city is shallow and has to be ventilated. (so people don't die. The Big Dig is NOT just the new Ted Williams tunnel under Boston Harbor. Skymap pro 11 crack download. A majority of the cost was spent putting a 10 lane highway that passes underneath the city, building a 14 lane bridge over the Charles, as well as a lot of other [bigdig.com]. And those huge cost overruns were due more to poor management and corruption than legitimate unforseen expenses. It's fair to say that the Big Dig was too expensive, but I don't think that it could be considered 'easy' relative to anything.
I think your point would've been better made comparing this project to the Chunnel. That 30 mile link cost about $13 billion (U.S.). So, yeah, 30 million seems a bit on the low side. I don't know if they would be in any way comparable. The Chunnel lies entirely in chalk, which bores easily with a 'relatively' cheap and simple machine. I don't know much about the geology of the area, but if there is hard volcanic rock involved, or fissures which will admit sea water, the cost rises enormously. However as regards distance, and the cost of fitting out with track, signalling etc, they are not all that different.
But railway track is only about 1M (UKP) per mile anyway, that is the cheapest p. The channel tunnel, between england and france, cost more than $21 billion, for a 31 mile undersea tunnel. I suspect the $30m is for the 3 year planning, not the tunnel dig itself.
Thank said, such a tunnel would of great interest. The chunnel takes cars (on trains) and train passengers much faster between the UK and the rest of europe than ferries. Once the new high-speed london to kent rail link is finished, it will be possible to go from London to Paris in 2 1/2 hours. One can only imagine how much e. And by 2030 we'll most certainly have 'bootstrapped' molecular manufacturing I think you will find statements like that is overly optimistic.